Can a concept evaluation depend on where it is evaluated?
up vote
14
down vote
favorite
[temp.concept]/5 says:
A concept is not instantiated ([temp.spec]).
[ Note: An id-expression that denotes a concept specialization is evaluated as an expression ([expr.prim.id]). [...]]
Does it mean that this rule bellow ([temp.point]/8) does not apply?
If two different points of instantiation give a template specialization different meanings according to the one-definition rule, the program is ill-formed, no diagnostic required.
For example if this rule does not apply, this code bellow is well formed:
template<class T>
concept Complete = sizeof(T)==sizeof(T);
struct A;
constexpr inline bool b1 = Complete<A>; //Complete<A>==false;
struct A{};
constexpr inline bool b2 = Complete<A>; //Complete<A>==true;
This question is followed by this one
c++ language-lawyer c++-concepts c++20
|
show 2 more comments
up vote
14
down vote
favorite
[temp.concept]/5 says:
A concept is not instantiated ([temp.spec]).
[ Note: An id-expression that denotes a concept specialization is evaluated as an expression ([expr.prim.id]). [...]]
Does it mean that this rule bellow ([temp.point]/8) does not apply?
If two different points of instantiation give a template specialization different meanings according to the one-definition rule, the program is ill-formed, no diagnostic required.
For example if this rule does not apply, this code bellow is well formed:
template<class T>
concept Complete = sizeof(T)==sizeof(T);
struct A;
constexpr inline bool b1 = Complete<A>; //Complete<A>==false;
struct A{};
constexpr inline bool b2 = Complete<A>; //Complete<A>==true;
This question is followed by this one
c++ language-lawyer c++-concepts c++20
@bolov Ortemplate<class A>
:-P
– Zereges
Nov 12 at 10:59
1
Are you sure the concept definition is well-formed when applied forb1
?
– rubenvb
Nov 12 at 11:03
That concept is ill-formed upon definition IIUC.
– StoryTeller
Nov 12 at 11:05
@Oliv - The paragraph I linked says nothing about instantiation, it's about template definition and name lookup. I'd be shocked if one can conjure non-dependent identifiers willy-nilly in a concept.
– StoryTeller
Nov 12 at 12:59
@Oliv - Yes,sizeof(A)
. It was an entirely different question with that typo. But whatever, if it was "obvious".
– StoryTeller
Nov 12 at 13:01
|
show 2 more comments
up vote
14
down vote
favorite
up vote
14
down vote
favorite
[temp.concept]/5 says:
A concept is not instantiated ([temp.spec]).
[ Note: An id-expression that denotes a concept specialization is evaluated as an expression ([expr.prim.id]). [...]]
Does it mean that this rule bellow ([temp.point]/8) does not apply?
If two different points of instantiation give a template specialization different meanings according to the one-definition rule, the program is ill-formed, no diagnostic required.
For example if this rule does not apply, this code bellow is well formed:
template<class T>
concept Complete = sizeof(T)==sizeof(T);
struct A;
constexpr inline bool b1 = Complete<A>; //Complete<A>==false;
struct A{};
constexpr inline bool b2 = Complete<A>; //Complete<A>==true;
This question is followed by this one
c++ language-lawyer c++-concepts c++20
[temp.concept]/5 says:
A concept is not instantiated ([temp.spec]).
[ Note: An id-expression that denotes a concept specialization is evaluated as an expression ([expr.prim.id]). [...]]
Does it mean that this rule bellow ([temp.point]/8) does not apply?
If two different points of instantiation give a template specialization different meanings according to the one-definition rule, the program is ill-formed, no diagnostic required.
For example if this rule does not apply, this code bellow is well formed:
template<class T>
concept Complete = sizeof(T)==sizeof(T);
struct A;
constexpr inline bool b1 = Complete<A>; //Complete<A>==false;
struct A{};
constexpr inline bool b2 = Complete<A>; //Complete<A>==true;
This question is followed by this one
c++ language-lawyer c++-concepts c++20
c++ language-lawyer c++-concepts c++20
edited Nov 12 at 13:35
asked Nov 12 at 10:21
Oliv
8,1351954
8,1351954
@bolov Ortemplate<class A>
:-P
– Zereges
Nov 12 at 10:59
1
Are you sure the concept definition is well-formed when applied forb1
?
– rubenvb
Nov 12 at 11:03
That concept is ill-formed upon definition IIUC.
– StoryTeller
Nov 12 at 11:05
@Oliv - The paragraph I linked says nothing about instantiation, it's about template definition and name lookup. I'd be shocked if one can conjure non-dependent identifiers willy-nilly in a concept.
– StoryTeller
Nov 12 at 12:59
@Oliv - Yes,sizeof(A)
. It was an entirely different question with that typo. But whatever, if it was "obvious".
– StoryTeller
Nov 12 at 13:01
|
show 2 more comments
@bolov Ortemplate<class A>
:-P
– Zereges
Nov 12 at 10:59
1
Are you sure the concept definition is well-formed when applied forb1
?
– rubenvb
Nov 12 at 11:03
That concept is ill-formed upon definition IIUC.
– StoryTeller
Nov 12 at 11:05
@Oliv - The paragraph I linked says nothing about instantiation, it's about template definition and name lookup. I'd be shocked if one can conjure non-dependent identifiers willy-nilly in a concept.
– StoryTeller
Nov 12 at 12:59
@Oliv - Yes,sizeof(A)
. It was an entirely different question with that typo. But whatever, if it was "obvious".
– StoryTeller
Nov 12 at 13:01
@bolov Or
template<class A>
:-P– Zereges
Nov 12 at 10:59
@bolov Or
template<class A>
:-P– Zereges
Nov 12 at 10:59
1
1
Are you sure the concept definition is well-formed when applied for
b1
?– rubenvb
Nov 12 at 11:03
Are you sure the concept definition is well-formed when applied for
b1
?– rubenvb
Nov 12 at 11:03
That concept is ill-formed upon definition IIUC.
– StoryTeller
Nov 12 at 11:05
That concept is ill-formed upon definition IIUC.
– StoryTeller
Nov 12 at 11:05
@Oliv - The paragraph I linked says nothing about instantiation, it's about template definition and name lookup. I'd be shocked if one can conjure non-dependent identifiers willy-nilly in a concept.
– StoryTeller
Nov 12 at 12:59
@Oliv - The paragraph I linked says nothing about instantiation, it's about template definition and name lookup. I'd be shocked if one can conjure non-dependent identifiers willy-nilly in a concept.
– StoryTeller
Nov 12 at 12:59
@Oliv - Yes,
sizeof(A)
. It was an entirely different question with that typo. But whatever, if it was "obvious".– StoryTeller
Nov 12 at 13:01
@Oliv - Yes,
sizeof(A)
. It was an entirely different question with that typo. But whatever, if it was "obvious".– StoryTeller
Nov 12 at 13:01
|
show 2 more comments
1 Answer
1
active
oldest
votes
up vote
7
down vote
accepted
Can a concept evaluation depend on where it is evaluated?
Yes. This was explicitly discussed during core wording review when merging Concepts into the working draft. The concept is re-evaluated every time.
As a result, this:
template<class T>
concept Complete = sizeof(T) == sizeof(T);
struct A;
static_assert(!Complete<A>);
struct A {};
static_assert(Complete<A>);
is well-formed. In other words, we don't "memoize" concepts in the same way we "memoize" template instantiations.
Thanks! Could you have a look at this question too?
– Oliv
Nov 12 at 18:50
1
Note that it’s ill-formed NDR to have a template whose instantiations might be different because of such changes between two of its (potential) points of instantiation. (Mostly this affects function templates.)
– Davis Herring
Nov 12 at 19:40
add a comment |
Your Answer
StackExchange.ifUsing("editor", function () {
StackExchange.using("externalEditor", function () {
StackExchange.using("snippets", function () {
StackExchange.snippets.init();
});
});
}, "code-snippets");
StackExchange.ready(function() {
var channelOptions = {
tags: "".split(" "),
id: "1"
};
initTagRenderer("".split(" "), "".split(" "), channelOptions);
StackExchange.using("externalEditor", function() {
// Have to fire editor after snippets, if snippets enabled
if (StackExchange.settings.snippets.snippetsEnabled) {
StackExchange.using("snippets", function() {
createEditor();
});
}
else {
createEditor();
}
});
function createEditor() {
StackExchange.prepareEditor({
heartbeatType: 'answer',
autoActivateHeartbeat: false,
convertImagesToLinks: true,
noModals: true,
showLowRepImageUploadWarning: true,
reputationToPostImages: 10,
bindNavPrevention: true,
postfix: "",
imageUploader: {
brandingHtml: "Powered by u003ca class="icon-imgur-white" href="https://imgur.com/"u003eu003c/au003e",
contentPolicyHtml: "User contributions licensed under u003ca href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/"u003ecc by-sa 3.0 with attribution requiredu003c/au003e u003ca href="https://stackoverflow.com/legal/content-policy"u003e(content policy)u003c/au003e",
allowUrls: true
},
onDemand: true,
discardSelector: ".discard-answer"
,immediatelyShowMarkdownHelp:true
});
}
});
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
StackExchange.ready(
function () {
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fstackoverflow.com%2fquestions%2f53260099%2fcan-a-concept-evaluation-depend-on-where-it-is-evaluated%23new-answer', 'question_page');
}
);
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
1 Answer
1
active
oldest
votes
1 Answer
1
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
up vote
7
down vote
accepted
Can a concept evaluation depend on where it is evaluated?
Yes. This was explicitly discussed during core wording review when merging Concepts into the working draft. The concept is re-evaluated every time.
As a result, this:
template<class T>
concept Complete = sizeof(T) == sizeof(T);
struct A;
static_assert(!Complete<A>);
struct A {};
static_assert(Complete<A>);
is well-formed. In other words, we don't "memoize" concepts in the same way we "memoize" template instantiations.
Thanks! Could you have a look at this question too?
– Oliv
Nov 12 at 18:50
1
Note that it’s ill-formed NDR to have a template whose instantiations might be different because of such changes between two of its (potential) points of instantiation. (Mostly this affects function templates.)
– Davis Herring
Nov 12 at 19:40
add a comment |
up vote
7
down vote
accepted
Can a concept evaluation depend on where it is evaluated?
Yes. This was explicitly discussed during core wording review when merging Concepts into the working draft. The concept is re-evaluated every time.
As a result, this:
template<class T>
concept Complete = sizeof(T) == sizeof(T);
struct A;
static_assert(!Complete<A>);
struct A {};
static_assert(Complete<A>);
is well-formed. In other words, we don't "memoize" concepts in the same way we "memoize" template instantiations.
Thanks! Could you have a look at this question too?
– Oliv
Nov 12 at 18:50
1
Note that it’s ill-formed NDR to have a template whose instantiations might be different because of such changes between two of its (potential) points of instantiation. (Mostly this affects function templates.)
– Davis Herring
Nov 12 at 19:40
add a comment |
up vote
7
down vote
accepted
up vote
7
down vote
accepted
Can a concept evaluation depend on where it is evaluated?
Yes. This was explicitly discussed during core wording review when merging Concepts into the working draft. The concept is re-evaluated every time.
As a result, this:
template<class T>
concept Complete = sizeof(T) == sizeof(T);
struct A;
static_assert(!Complete<A>);
struct A {};
static_assert(Complete<A>);
is well-formed. In other words, we don't "memoize" concepts in the same way we "memoize" template instantiations.
Can a concept evaluation depend on where it is evaluated?
Yes. This was explicitly discussed during core wording review when merging Concepts into the working draft. The concept is re-evaluated every time.
As a result, this:
template<class T>
concept Complete = sizeof(T) == sizeof(T);
struct A;
static_assert(!Complete<A>);
struct A {};
static_assert(Complete<A>);
is well-formed. In other words, we don't "memoize" concepts in the same way we "memoize" template instantiations.
answered Nov 12 at 18:43
Barry
176k18301557
176k18301557
Thanks! Could you have a look at this question too?
– Oliv
Nov 12 at 18:50
1
Note that it’s ill-formed NDR to have a template whose instantiations might be different because of such changes between two of its (potential) points of instantiation. (Mostly this affects function templates.)
– Davis Herring
Nov 12 at 19:40
add a comment |
Thanks! Could you have a look at this question too?
– Oliv
Nov 12 at 18:50
1
Note that it’s ill-formed NDR to have a template whose instantiations might be different because of such changes between two of its (potential) points of instantiation. (Mostly this affects function templates.)
– Davis Herring
Nov 12 at 19:40
Thanks! Could you have a look at this question too?
– Oliv
Nov 12 at 18:50
Thanks! Could you have a look at this question too?
– Oliv
Nov 12 at 18:50
1
1
Note that it’s ill-formed NDR to have a template whose instantiations might be different because of such changes between two of its (potential) points of instantiation. (Mostly this affects function templates.)
– Davis Herring
Nov 12 at 19:40
Note that it’s ill-formed NDR to have a template whose instantiations might be different because of such changes between two of its (potential) points of instantiation. (Mostly this affects function templates.)
– Davis Herring
Nov 12 at 19:40
add a comment |
Thanks for contributing an answer to Stack Overflow!
- Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!
But avoid …
- Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.
- Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.
To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.
Some of your past answers have not been well-received, and you're in danger of being blocked from answering.
Please pay close attention to the following guidance:
- Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!
But avoid …
- Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.
- Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.
To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
StackExchange.ready(
function () {
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fstackoverflow.com%2fquestions%2f53260099%2fcan-a-concept-evaluation-depend-on-where-it-is-evaluated%23new-answer', 'question_page');
}
);
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
@bolov Or
template<class A>
:-P– Zereges
Nov 12 at 10:59
1
Are you sure the concept definition is well-formed when applied for
b1
?– rubenvb
Nov 12 at 11:03
That concept is ill-formed upon definition IIUC.
– StoryTeller
Nov 12 at 11:05
@Oliv - The paragraph I linked says nothing about instantiation, it's about template definition and name lookup. I'd be shocked if one can conjure non-dependent identifiers willy-nilly in a concept.
– StoryTeller
Nov 12 at 12:59
@Oliv - Yes,
sizeof(A)
. It was an entirely different question with that typo. But whatever, if it was "obvious".– StoryTeller
Nov 12 at 13:01