Symbolic Conditional Help












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Premise:
(Tet(a) ^ Tet(b)) v (Cube(c) ^ Cube(d))



Cube(c) -> Dodec(e)



Goal:
~Tet(a) -> Dodec(e)



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    Premise:
    (Tet(a) ^ Tet(b)) v (Cube(c) ^ Cube(d))



    Cube(c) -> Dodec(e)



    Goal:
    ~Tet(a) -> Dodec(e)



    Anyone have a clue on where to start with this?










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      Premise:
      (Tet(a) ^ Tet(b)) v (Cube(c) ^ Cube(d))



      Cube(c) -> Dodec(e)



      Goal:
      ~Tet(a) -> Dodec(e)



      Anyone have a clue on where to start with this?










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      Premise:
      (Tet(a) ^ Tet(b)) v (Cube(c) ^ Cube(d))



      Cube(c) -> Dodec(e)



      Goal:
      ~Tet(a) -> Dodec(e)



      Anyone have a clue on where to start with this?







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          I agree with Graham Kemp's "skeleton for the proof".



          Rather than provide a skeleton, I will provide a completed proof but using a different proof checker. To make this work in the proof checker I renamed the statements.



          enter image description here



          You may not be able to use all of the inference rules as they are used here. I used conjunction elimination (∧E), contradiction introduction (⊥I), explosion (X), conditional introduction (→I), and disjunction elimination (∨E).



          Klement's proof checker and information about the rules I used can be found in forall x referenced below.





          Reference



          Kevin Klement's JavaScript/PHP Fitch-style natural deduction proof editor and checker http://proofs.openlogicproject.org/



          P. D. Magnus, Tim Button with additions by J. Robert Loftis remixed and revised by Aaron Thomas-Bolduc, Richard Zach, forallx Calgary Remix: An Introduction to Formal Logic, Winter 2018. http://forallx.openlogicproject.org/






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          • Thanks, I managed to understand what was going on and able to apply it!

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          Clearly you want a Conditional Proof to prove that conditional. Assume ~Tet(a) aiming to derive Dodec(e).



          Now look at the to premises and the assumption and ask: how may I derive Dodec(e) from that disjunction, conditional, and negation?



          |  (Tet(a) ^ Tet(b)) v (Cube(c) ^ Cube(d))  Premise
          |_ Cube(c) -> Dodec(e) Premise
          | |_ ~Tet(a) Assume
          | | :
          | | Dodec(e)
          | ~Tet(a) -> Dodec(e) Conditional Introduction





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            I agree with Graham Kemp's "skeleton for the proof".



            Rather than provide a skeleton, I will provide a completed proof but using a different proof checker. To make this work in the proof checker I renamed the statements.



            enter image description here



            You may not be able to use all of the inference rules as they are used here. I used conjunction elimination (∧E), contradiction introduction (⊥I), explosion (X), conditional introduction (→I), and disjunction elimination (∨E).



            Klement's proof checker and information about the rules I used can be found in forall x referenced below.





            Reference



            Kevin Klement's JavaScript/PHP Fitch-style natural deduction proof editor and checker http://proofs.openlogicproject.org/



            P. D. Magnus, Tim Button with additions by J. Robert Loftis remixed and revised by Aaron Thomas-Bolduc, Richard Zach, forallx Calgary Remix: An Introduction to Formal Logic, Winter 2018. http://forallx.openlogicproject.org/






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            • Thanks, I managed to understand what was going on and able to apply it!

              – J. Martinez
              Nov 14 '18 at 8:53
















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            I agree with Graham Kemp's "skeleton for the proof".



            Rather than provide a skeleton, I will provide a completed proof but using a different proof checker. To make this work in the proof checker I renamed the statements.



            enter image description here



            You may not be able to use all of the inference rules as they are used here. I used conjunction elimination (∧E), contradiction introduction (⊥I), explosion (X), conditional introduction (→I), and disjunction elimination (∨E).



            Klement's proof checker and information about the rules I used can be found in forall x referenced below.





            Reference



            Kevin Klement's JavaScript/PHP Fitch-style natural deduction proof editor and checker http://proofs.openlogicproject.org/



            P. D. Magnus, Tim Button with additions by J. Robert Loftis remixed and revised by Aaron Thomas-Bolduc, Richard Zach, forallx Calgary Remix: An Introduction to Formal Logic, Winter 2018. http://forallx.openlogicproject.org/






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            • Thanks, I managed to understand what was going on and able to apply it!

              – J. Martinez
              Nov 14 '18 at 8:53














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            I agree with Graham Kemp's "skeleton for the proof".



            Rather than provide a skeleton, I will provide a completed proof but using a different proof checker. To make this work in the proof checker I renamed the statements.



            enter image description here



            You may not be able to use all of the inference rules as they are used here. I used conjunction elimination (∧E), contradiction introduction (⊥I), explosion (X), conditional introduction (→I), and disjunction elimination (∨E).



            Klement's proof checker and information about the rules I used can be found in forall x referenced below.





            Reference



            Kevin Klement's JavaScript/PHP Fitch-style natural deduction proof editor and checker http://proofs.openlogicproject.org/



            P. D. Magnus, Tim Button with additions by J. Robert Loftis remixed and revised by Aaron Thomas-Bolduc, Richard Zach, forallx Calgary Remix: An Introduction to Formal Logic, Winter 2018. http://forallx.openlogicproject.org/






            share|improve this answer













            I agree with Graham Kemp's "skeleton for the proof".



            Rather than provide a skeleton, I will provide a completed proof but using a different proof checker. To make this work in the proof checker I renamed the statements.



            enter image description here



            You may not be able to use all of the inference rules as they are used here. I used conjunction elimination (∧E), contradiction introduction (⊥I), explosion (X), conditional introduction (→I), and disjunction elimination (∨E).



            Klement's proof checker and information about the rules I used can be found in forall x referenced below.





            Reference



            Kevin Klement's JavaScript/PHP Fitch-style natural deduction proof editor and checker http://proofs.openlogicproject.org/



            P. D. Magnus, Tim Button with additions by J. Robert Loftis remixed and revised by Aaron Thomas-Bolduc, Richard Zach, forallx Calgary Remix: An Introduction to Formal Logic, Winter 2018. http://forallx.openlogicproject.org/







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            • Thanks, I managed to understand what was going on and able to apply it!

              – J. Martinez
              Nov 14 '18 at 8:53



















            • Thanks, I managed to understand what was going on and able to apply it!

              – J. Martinez
              Nov 14 '18 at 8:53

















            Thanks, I managed to understand what was going on and able to apply it!

            – J. Martinez
            Nov 14 '18 at 8:53





            Thanks, I managed to understand what was going on and able to apply it!

            – J. Martinez
            Nov 14 '18 at 8:53











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            Clearly you want a Conditional Proof to prove that conditional. Assume ~Tet(a) aiming to derive Dodec(e).



            Now look at the to premises and the assumption and ask: how may I derive Dodec(e) from that disjunction, conditional, and negation?



            |  (Tet(a) ^ Tet(b)) v (Cube(c) ^ Cube(d))  Premise
            |_ Cube(c) -> Dodec(e) Premise
            | |_ ~Tet(a) Assume
            | | :
            | | Dodec(e)
            | ~Tet(a) -> Dodec(e) Conditional Introduction





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              Clearly you want a Conditional Proof to prove that conditional. Assume ~Tet(a) aiming to derive Dodec(e).



              Now look at the to premises and the assumption and ask: how may I derive Dodec(e) from that disjunction, conditional, and negation?



              |  (Tet(a) ^ Tet(b)) v (Cube(c) ^ Cube(d))  Premise
              |_ Cube(c) -> Dodec(e) Premise
              | |_ ~Tet(a) Assume
              | | :
              | | Dodec(e)
              | ~Tet(a) -> Dodec(e) Conditional Introduction





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                Clearly you want a Conditional Proof to prove that conditional. Assume ~Tet(a) aiming to derive Dodec(e).



                Now look at the to premises and the assumption and ask: how may I derive Dodec(e) from that disjunction, conditional, and negation?



                |  (Tet(a) ^ Tet(b)) v (Cube(c) ^ Cube(d))  Premise
                |_ Cube(c) -> Dodec(e) Premise
                | |_ ~Tet(a) Assume
                | | :
                | | Dodec(e)
                | ~Tet(a) -> Dodec(e) Conditional Introduction





                share|improve this answer















                Clearly you want a Conditional Proof to prove that conditional. Assume ~Tet(a) aiming to derive Dodec(e).



                Now look at the to premises and the assumption and ask: how may I derive Dodec(e) from that disjunction, conditional, and negation?



                |  (Tet(a) ^ Tet(b)) v (Cube(c) ^ Cube(d))  Premise
                |_ Cube(c) -> Dodec(e) Premise
                | |_ ~Tet(a) Assume
                | | :
                | | Dodec(e)
                | ~Tet(a) -> Dodec(e) Conditional Introduction






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